GURLZ WHATS UP WITH THEM????

[Yungsong]

SOME GIRLS HAVE ISSUES I MEAN THEY THINK THEYR BETTER THAN EVERYONE AND THEY DONT EVEN LOOK RIGHT

[Setsuri]

what does right look like? Is it different from left? um, dunno whay some girls are idiots, it prolly be the same reason some guys are idiots. People as a whole are stuck up creatures absorbed with the fact of their own existance. It's the precious few that don't have that.

Now is there any specific girl that's troubling you to this extent or a group of said girls which has made you begin to tap the door to the ever moving escalator of existance?

[DJ XB]

Yong I think you made a BAD mistake bro :confused:

[Road_Kill]

i must admit, this will be fun to see play out.

[DJ XB]

Girls girls girls girls. Girls I do adore! Put yo number on a paper cause I would love to date ya.
Thats cool uh? from this song I heard.

[Setsuri]

^^ pretty poem I love evolution conversations... *laughs* I'm not even sure what the door of the escalator of existance is... possibly blue since that's a pretty colour no, wait it's a state of mind! Ahh snow flakes, a lot of my mom's freinds are flakes but not the frosted cornflake kind... oh look shiny things!~

~ Sets [slowly degrading the views of women's intelligence world wide by the second ]

[jitterbugperfume]

Okay, being a woman - all other women, please don't hate me - I kind of understand where these men are coming from sometimes.

For example, a normal male to female conversation would consist of: "Man, I really like that shirt." With the man expecting that the woman understood he liked said shirt.

A normal female to male conversation would consist of: "Oh, I don't know if I do or not. what do you think? Does it look okay? Well ... oh ... suprise me." With the woman expecting the man to understand that she really liked the shirt, but she wanted him to have the opportunity to suprise her. However, by not telling him whether or not she really did like the shirt, she has obviously confused the poor man, who must now make a terrible decision of whether to buy her the shirt or not, because if she really doesn't like the shirt, there is nothing worse than a woman scorned.

Not to mention the fact that we cannot hold a single thought conversation for more than five seconds. I went to WalMart yesterday. Oh my gosh they had such a huge line in the pharmacy. There was a woman there - oh, did you remember to take out the garbage?

Now, as for the "looking right" ... WHAT THE CRAP are you talking about. Boy I look just fine. Maybe you need glasses. And if you have glasses, maybe you should take them off.

[ December 03, 2003, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: jitterbugperfume ]

[Unit1Evangelion]

oh boy. this is goin to be a bad discussion lol. opps should of said oh damn. don't want ot be sexest.

[DJ XB]

Lets see how this goes.

[Road_Kill]

*sits down with some popcorn*

Aside to Azure "Anything good happen yet?

[DJ XB]

this is boring! someone do some thing!

[Kurisu]

Wow, I really don't know what to say but Why don't we look past other's flaws into their true nature. Maybe then we'll understand why we do the things we do. But there will alweys be some things that will remain a mystery

[DJ XB]

you just made it even more boring kurisuto.... I'm leaving the theater.

[jitterbugperfume]

Men are from Mars, women are from venus. The truth could not be more evident. Totally different in most aspects. Being a woman, I see things that I can totally understand why men are so confused, however, we have no control over these things, just as men have no control over there stunted understanding of massive empathy women posses.

Women cry over commercials. Men, have you ever asked yourselves, "Why?" Well, here is the explaination. It is empathy. There is nothing greater than the woman's ability to place herself emotionally into any circumstance. Henceforth the flow of emotion towards a stupid commercial.

Now if I could just find someone else to continue this conversation with me, it may be worth the popcorn. lol ;)

[Road_Kill]

well, men are capable of empathy, we just ahve been bred through society to believe empathy from a man is bad. and on top of that, there are truly some things that we will never understand, like your attraction to cute furry things.

many of us just adopt a methodology of "Don't ask, don't get the look." ity works quite well, most of teh time.

[DJ XB]

(re-entering the theater) Sympathy? oh yea I remember! My mom told me that I hsve no symapthy at all towards anyone or thing. I still don't know why she said it. and another girl told me that I have no Heart at all Do ya'll think thats true?

[Unit1Evangelion]

^hey i was told that alot. don't worry about it. women don't know what they are talking about.

women in general use empathy for the simple fact they want it back. women let their emotions take control of them yet deny it most of the time but love to use it as an excuse. women need to learn to understand that man won't pitty them and bow down to there needs when ever the want. i admit. there are some women out there that know what they want and don't play games. those women make the world go round.

man is capable of empathy but chooses not to use it or little use of it cause it clouds judgement, thoughts, will, sanity and and ones understanding ability. i want to say most men don't let emotions take over them.....but men get angry very quickly. which is alot better than being histarical, loud and stupid. but us men are the reason the world is what it is today. we have the power to follow through and get things done without any interference from emotions. its hard for women to do something without emotion. if man was like women. this world would still be in caveman era.

dont' get me wrong. if it wasn't for women we wouldn't exsist. but women need to grasp the fact that they need us too. they like to use man to play their stupid little games and get what they want. what they want doesn't better anyone but themselves.

i love women. i used to have highest respect for them. but i dont' play womens games.

[DJ XB]

wow! women are confusing! playing there little games. They hurt my head.

[Road_Kill]

men play games as well, we just aren't near as determined, or deadly in ours.

[DJ XB]

the only games I play are the ones on my T.V. screen.

[Kurisu]

Right on, Mr. Boomba!

[DJ XB]

go head mr.windill!

[jitterbugperfume]

Okay. MEN don't make the world go 'round. I don't know who's been filling yo' head with that crap. Truth be known, behind every great man is a greater woman. A great man must be strong. A great man must know compassion. A great man must know sacrifice. And great men come from great women who teach them all these things. Yes, women can be overbearing with thier emotions, but when instilled into a man who knows how to control them, they become a great man's asset. To understand the emotions of both men and women is what makes a great leader. Yes, most great leaders have been men, but that is not to say that women could not lead with as much grace and boldness as any man. Granted, you would be hard to find as many women as men who are fit to lead, but they are out there, and some would be better than any man to lead because they do have that added empathy.

And as for the games that men play, ya'll just plain ol' playas. The games you all play are dangerous. Cheating not only puts your partner's emotions on the line, but their health and safety as well. If you are that fed up in a relationship, get some balls and get out. If it ain't that bad, then buck up and get over it. But never, ever, ever cheat on someone. It is not fair. And if you have any respect for yourself or the person you are with, when the possibility arives in your miniscule little brains that you want a greener pasture, you need to be open about it and either get out or go on.

[ December 16, 2003, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: jitterbugperfume ]

[DJ XB]

I'm strong.. I'm a GREAT MAN!

[Road_Kill]

jitter; 1) you've read far too much into macbeth.

2) once i get past the wonderfully, solidly tasting bias yuo seem to have, i get this point "men cheat al teh time because we don't think it will hurt women."

all i can sayis that men and women have, historically each commited teh same amount of crimes, wether tehy be public, private, immoral, indecent, intended, unintended, soul or body oriented. the numvbers are pretty much even on both sides. and, from this arises my point that men and women platy the exact same games. women will cntest among themselves for a man at times, and men will do te same for a women. women will try and turn a man to one path, and a man will always be trying to turn a woman to another path as well.

we can very easily make assumptions and gross generalizations like "men think only of food, sex and sleep." or women think only of "money, emotions, and sex." however, that is not good form. first we must determine what a humannature is, then agree upon it. then we must determine what is it within that nature which sepeartes the genders. and then answerr teh uestions "why are girls teh way tehy are, and men teh way they are?"

so, my challenge to teh group here is, what is the definition of human nature upon which we will base all our arguments? is human nature dictated by teh desires; food, sleep, sex, - the physical needs. or is it ditacted by teh conciousness, our morals, our minds, senses of right and wrong?

[jitterbugperfume]

All of the above. You cannot servive without the basic needs, and any psychologist will tell you that the brain has basic needs as well as the body.

[Road_Kill]

ok, i agree that all these things govern us. however, i say that teh chief power is our minds.

at teh base of our pursuits is a pursuit of the physcial needs; food, water, and shelter. then, above and governing that is our mental capacity. we can force ourselves not to eat poisioned food, or not to drink salt water. then, beyond that is teh pursuit of knowledge, and everything that entails; math, arts, philosophizing, etc.

[DJ XB]

wo wo wo now! stay on the topic at hand!

[Setsuri]

topic? this is a naturally stray boomba. From the initial we have led to some fun old philosophy on the difference between genders and human nature, this stuff is fun to debate when you get into it.

as a whole I believe we are all conceived with the same basic functions both mentally physically and 'morally' from there the rest is environment. the way people act and associate with others is highly based on what they learned in childhood. If for example a boy was yelled at for crying and told it made him weak he would do anything not to be caught doing it. Now if a girl for example got whatever she liked by acting sweet and coy and then getting upset and crying when refused until the parent changed their mind, they would continue.

Silly as it is I have watched these sorts of things between people with interest and due to a lack of friends in elementary saw the children the differences between the way the boys and girls act and how much of it was based on what they learn from home. I as well have many adult friends and can say where these differences are, and as a whole although I find men and women's 'games' tend to be slightly different they are all simply matters of cirumstance passed on from our parents and our parents before them.

Times change and our methods change with them but the essential meanings are always the same.

[p.s. not to be degrading to my own gender but the fact that once a month our hormones are out of balance and whether or not that will affect our judgement might have to do with why there aren't quite as many women rulers. women that have puppet kings yes but think of the people below, how would you like to be ruled by someone that potentially once a month could destroy your life?]

[blu ku bara]

wo i just read this hole chat this is some deep stuff are some of you like in cholege majoring in lectures

its all good though you could bottle this stuff and sell it as pure deep philosopy

p.s. go head mr.windill! :cool:

[Setsuri]

*laughs* Well jittery is an adult and Roady and I are highschool students, roady does take a philosophy class though. Hmm perhaps I should major in lecturing Sorry for our odd way of looking at things, I just find this sort of thing fun, I'm an extreme Lain fan for a reason.

[jitterbugperfume]

Sets, I totally agree with the environmental theory. If it were not so, then we could say, "Aw, the poor child molester. He was just born that way. The poor rapist. He was just given the wrong genes. Aw, the poor ax murderer, et cetera." You know, I am sick and tired of people saying, "I can't help it. It's the way I was born." It really makes me sick. We are all given choices to make. Just because you are given a hard time because of the choices you make, don't blame it on your genes. They had nothing to do with it. If you are that sure about the choices you make in your life, be proud that it was a CHOICE you made. Don't try and make people feel sorry for you because you don't have enough gutts to own up to them.

P.S. Sets, I'm thinking about getting LAIN. I would like to see some clips. If you know were some are, PM me with addresses, PLEASE!!! :D

[Road_Kill]

ok, so we have determine that human nature is determined by our experiences. we have a clean slate when born, and we build upon it as we grow. now, we must decided wether these experences are predominantly given to us by society, or if they are predominantly given to us by some other source.

my thinking: society. it is the societal values that are passed from generation to generation which determine teh values we will have instilled on us by our parents, and that we eitrhe aopt, or adapt for our opwn children. for example, teh quote "eventually, we all become our parents".

Aside: yes, i am in a philosophy course, but its at teh highschool level, so very little is actually dais or done that's new-hat. however, it is still a vey fun course for philisophicalness. (is taht even a word?) i used to be very closed minded, and now, i'm somewaht less closed minded, but i'm able to back my closed mindedness up with supporting, proper arguents. for example; i thinkof tehentire world as a joke, because at the end of tehday, the things that an average peson does will not be noted by history, and wil not be remembered. we leave nothing behind when we pass on. so therefore, if nothing is left to embarras you, yuo can do anything you want. and besides, if yuo can't have a laugh or two, where's teh fun?

sets: nothing wrong with enjoying thsi sort of thing. just means you like to thionk outside the box. heh, that reminds me, in need to finish watching LAIN. i think i'm at about ep 2... bah, oh well.

boomba: lol, since when has staying on topic been one of yur chief concerns?

[jitterbugperfume]

It is so much more complex than "society". when you say "society", what part of society are you refering to?

General society, the main source of what we see as "popular"; hairstyles, clothes, terminology, et cetera.

Familial society, the family structure you are raised in. This determines a lot of our relationship interaction. Ex: A child who sees their mother being abused is more likely to be an abuser/victim. The mother who allows the abuse to continue is teaching the child, through environment, that it is acceptable and expected for a woman to "grin and bear it." Where a mother who leaves immediately teaches that it is not something to "put up with", "get out of Dodge".

Environmental society, the residential area we live in, schools we attend, churches we go to, et cetera. This is how we preceive how we should conduct ourselves in public. If you live in a little redneck town where people put crap on their front porch to rot, you will likely not be concerned of how your own front porch looks.

Moral society, anyone who you connect with on an emotional level. These are the relationships that mold who we are for the most part. If we see someone we respect and look up to doing something, good or bad, we learn that this is acceptable behavior. Therefore, setting our moral standards to that level.

[DJ XB]

:D I have no hair to style! :D

[Road_Kill]

jitter: okay, so lets look at the different aspects of society yuo emntioned.

pop-culture, has a great effecton everybody. either you embrace it, avoid it, or find a medium.

Familial: very valid. if i didn't see my dad drink himself to sleep, would ichoose not to do so? i am reminded of teh statistic thatfor teh first five years of yuor life, yuo learn almost everything yuo will ever need to know. and who spends teh most time with you during your first five years? mom and dad usually.

environmetal: if we're talking physical environments,m ie; mountainous, valley, then, that could be a bit of it. though if we are talking social envronment, i'm thinking that it wouldn't have much to do wityh your prime belies, but, more with your developed and adaptable beliefs. for example, a prime belief is "the sky is blue" but a developed belief would be "The sky may be blue, but it is not always blue, it is also red, or white."

moral/emotional: again, i think that initally they don't form our prime beliefs, but they can, given time, form teh basis for a set of core beliefs, or to adapt until they become the core beliefs. and these are defintely devolped from a very earlyage, and all trhoughout our lives, actually.

PS: at this point iw ould like to point out that sociology is not my strong point. i am a much better existentalist than a sociologist.

[Xion-Jehuty]

Whoa, stop! You're all hitting me with long words! Im gonna be the NEUTRAL argument, because:
1) I dont wanna look like a pansy to the men.
2) I dont wanna get torn to shreds by a hoard of angry women.
Nasty situation, this one is. I don't believe in Biblical events, so Adam and Eve doesnt concern me. I think that women are just as good as men, each sex exceeds the other in certain ways; women can multi-task, whereas men have stronger physical attributes. I'm currently doing this at college for a Key Skills essay . The thing is that women have always been treated as second-class citizens. The various laws to encourage female partnership in occupations cannot be fully carried out, because recruiting female workers by the hundred would undoubtedly be considered sexist toward males, as males would then be discriminated against. Really tough area to tread one, its like walking across a moral minefield :D

[Unit1Evangelion]

women complain cause they are not equal. when men tried to make them equal by letting them do most jobs that men do cause they said they can. they end up complaining and separating themselves from us. for example: i do hard labor work with guys that most people if they saw on the streets would stir away from them. we lift 8000lbs+ a night. women have tried to do what we do but just can't hang. we had one woman that was able to but kept complaining cause she wasn't getting treated like a woman. basically we had to change the way we act in our job for her cause she didn't like being treated as a male worker. yes i know she is a female but she also had to understand we ain't goin to change the way we been doin things for her.

don't know if that made any sense but ya im goin to a strip club haha.

[DJ XB]

Originally posted by Unit1Evangelion:
women complain cause they are not equal. when men tried to make them equal by letting them do most jobs that men do cause they said they can. they end up complaining and separating themselves from us. for example: i do hard labor work with guys that most people if they saw on the streets would stir away from them. we lift 8000lbs+ a night. women have tried to do what we do but just can't hang. we had one woman that was able to but kept complaining cause she wasn't getting treated like a woman. basically we had to change the way we act in our job for her cause she didn't like being treated as a male worker. yes i know she is a female but she also had to understand we ain't goin to change the way we been doin things for her.

don't know if that made any sense but ya im goin to a strip club haha. Women Complain.....period.

[Mizuko Karandora]

Ouch. Some big generalizations you're making there. So, some women are stupid about sexism. There are a lot of stupid people out there, and half of them are women. Complainers have to have something to whine about, so it's not surprising that when you put everything together, you get some stupid women who whine about sexism.

As for my view, I'll agree that on average, men have more upperbody strength than women (lower body is a bit different, after all, do you really want to know how much physical strength it takes to go through labor?). That's actually part of the problem, in my opinion. You see, women are more vulnerable. Once a boy grows up, he's mostly escaped the risk of being raped (not that it can't or doesn't happen, but statistically...) whereas for women, it doesn't matter how old you get, there's still a very real danger. I cringe when I think of some of the things that have happened to me just because I was stupid and careless. And look at that! I blame myself. Am I to blame? Yes, it was dumb to stay at his house even after his parents left (though I hadn't realized they left) especially since he was older, bigger, and more experienced with various martial arts. So, I guess it was my fault to a certain extent. Guys don't have to worry about that so much. Harassment is an issue too.

As for men making the world what it is today.... *looks around at the poverty and war, remembers Hitler and Mussolini, thinks about weapons of mass destruction, considers the 27 million people who are living in slavery today....* Well, if you really want to take credit for making the world what it is, you're welcome to do so. I certainly don't want any credit.


p.s. I'm not saying that men are at fault for everything that is bad (unless they really did make it what it is today).

[ January 13, 2004, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: Mizuko Karandora ]

[DJ XB]

No matter how complaintive they are I still love the Ladies

[Road_Kill]

bottomline: we all make our beds, wether tey be gender based, or societal based. we each must lie in them. and weeach must decide for ourselves who to blame, ourselves, others, or no one.

[SoraX]

Heh wow there are a lot of people that treat women like a peice of meat (which is dead wrong) :mad:

[DJ XB]

I have to agree. Women fet treated poorly nowadays. My girl will NEVER be treated like second class!

[Setsuri]

really... i just don't find that there's anyway to totally avoid girls being nasty and cruel at times. I think environment is a big factor like i'd said before but i also think guys should keep in mind that sometimes the comments and complaints are meaningless simply coming from a bad time of the month. I'm of the firm belief that at that point us women should either suck it up and smile and be as pleasant as possible or have the option to drop everything and lock ourselves up in a room with chocolate.

*laughs* any way it's not for me to say. People are people women were treated unfairly once, well many racial groups were treaed even worse.
When all else fails pull the "well some other girl in some other foreign country doesn't get half of whatever it is you get"

[SoraX]

also yung i just looked at your first post on this topic and what the hell do you meen they dont look right are you stupid?!

[ReyaKareal]

whats wrong w/ girls not all of us R bad :mad: N-Eways a lot of guys come here and I'm single :( contact me if interested :teardrop:

[Osiris]

hmmm I don't see the point of this thread.

[asd]

Yeah um, wtf? Ok... I don't like all girls, but I don't like all guys either. I hate most people. Unless they are genuinley nice people, in that case, I don't give a shit and I hope maby others will be more like them some day. Mypoint is, shut the fuck up, if you don't like girls don't like them. If you don't like guys, don't like them. We don't care, be some stupid stereotypical moron who sits in his room all day and types retarted gender related complaints on ANIME forums all day.

Have a bitchin' night,
Nyko

[wildcat]

i dont like guys...
ive really never been treated well by one, and bc of that im really bitter.
i felt in love once and my soul was destroyed because of that. he took advantage of it and ripped out my heart. so guys are just as bad if not worse than girls....
thats why im single...
plus no guy at my school is worth my time...
immature assholes

[Sasuke]

Why is this here. Why am I here.

[Lord Menomaru]

well here r some reasons one the girl has a mental problem (ADD, ADHD, or there just stupid) or it could be that they r trying to be different. I see it all the time a girl trys to make herself look like she is right (in most cases anyway) and if a girl wants to be like that, let them be like that. unless of course u really want to make the girl angry so she slaps u or somethin' (which will get people to laugh at u). i know this because i live with a sister who has ADD and wants to look like she is right all the time. it's something u live with and if u can't them maybe u should lock urself in ur room, sit in a dark corner and rock back and forth like an insane person would. oh and by the way i am a guy.

[shadow]

Not every women to man conversation is like this you could have a fine conversation with a women without the how do I looks just pick suttin ur both into.

[asd]

Why is this here. Why am I here.

Yes, why are you here XD jk...


Not every women to man conversation is like this you could have a fine conversation with a women without the how do I looks just pick suttin ur both into.

True, keep it on grounds you can stand on. If she doesn't like what you do forget her. Same to girls, if he's not into you he's not meant for you. I guess that sums it up

[Dark Angel]

Yes, why are you here XD jk...



True, keep it on grounds you can stand on. If she doesn't like what you do forget her. Same to girls, if he's not into you he's not meant for you. I guess that sums it upSometimes I wish girls would stop following a guy if he doesnt like her because it gets annoying and its a waste of time explaining to her that he doesnt like her because she wont listen!!! :mad:

[Anime-lonestar-wolf]

I find nothing wroung with certain girls. Actually I know quite a few cool ones but others are to obssessed withthemsevles. They don't call it VAINity for nothing.

[Anime-lonestar-wolf]

But then again what would I know about girls...I'm still acting like a three year old and posting no girls allowed signs on my door. :lol: JK

[Larechar]

why would you not want girls in a private clubhouse?(as long as they don't bitch all the time(some guys do that to, not being sexist(I'm a guy))), that's just gross... a room full of guys doing nothing... eww

[Dimari]

Sometimes I wish girls would stop following a guy if he doesnt like her because it gets annoying and its a waste of time explaining to her that he doesnt like her because she wont listen!!! :mad:

*knows how you feel* ... it is very awkward!

Though sometimes girls are missunderstood, as are guys and thats the problem. Some people aren't willing to meet another half way, and because of that stereotypes have been made in which have shaped society to be like it is now! ... people not wanting to understand others because of what they have been told by their peers.

Oh well... personally girls don't interest me *stops and wonders why... and giggles*

Whats wrong withn just guys in a private club house... if they are doing nothing?? huh??

[Larechar]

well, I'm not gay(not being gayist(is that a word? no? I didn't think so)) so unless 'tis a locker room, or they're playing poker, or doing something other than nothing, just seems kinda gross to me. what I'm saying is, why wouldn't you want girls there? they lighten everything up(or ruin it:thinking: )and 'twould be a shame to not have them there. just seems immature...
unless the guys are doing ABSOLUTELY nothing... which doesn't happen very often.

[Dimari]

Whats wrong withn just guys in a private club house... if they are doing nothing?? huh?? lol... i only meant that in a sarcastic and joking way... i think :thinking:

I have to agree with you on the point that the lasses do lighten things up. A large amount of my friends are girls, and they get in with me really wells because they dont feel as threatened... i think. Plus i enjoy female company, it allows me to be me, without having to keep filtering what i do and say because of it might offending some other guy! So yeah, i'd rather take one of my lady friends out than a guy friend (unless it was ken *nods*) . . . we all have our different tastes.

[Larechar]

... oh, well, ok...

ya thas true... I'd much rather take a girl out than a guy, always... lol...

unless we were planning somethin' big or somethin'... like a robbery or somethin'... not big like gross... well, you get the idea :)